Listen in as Chuck sits down with his wife and favorite leader, Rilla Delorier, to discuss how they approach life design. Rilla's lifelong mission is to "have fun and make a difference," and in this episode, she reveals the thinking behind her success and shares many of the lessons she's picked up along the way.

Their conversation includes advice for women leaders and young people entering the workforce. She discusses how her views about performance and achievement have changed over time, and about the daily practice that keeps the main thing the main thing.